The GUS Daily Digest Friday, 26 May 1995 Volume 22 : Number 024 Today's Topics: I get the OS bit out of the way first... then DOS midi support. Out of scene + new GUS 16 bit recording (adpcm) Full Throttle OS/2 Drivers + Win'95 Arg + etc... goodbye GUS RE: The GUS Daily Digest V22 #23 MK ][ and GUS ... possible ?! RE: The OS discussion... RE: The Win95 discussion... Re: Discworld Choppy AVI's in Windows...I know, i know.. NO OS FLAME WARS PLEASE!!!!! !!!HELP!!! GUS + SOUND BLASTER !!!HELP!!! .AMD InterWave Press Release Found. Problems with the digest..... Re: The GUS Daily Digest V22 #20 AMD Interwave emulation GUS for sale GUSMax for sale RE: GUS and updated drivers (&Win 95) Standard Info: - Meta-info about the GUS can be found at the end of the Digest. - Before you ask a question, please READ THE FAQ. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sam Date: Thu, 25 May 1995 10:31:48 +0100 (BST) Subject: I get the OS bit out of the way first... then DOS midi support. > You can. In fact, win95 has a 32 bit Kernel, GDI and User base. The 16 bit stuff > is "thunked" across. The I/O, graphics, etc drivers are ALL 32bit protected mode. I've seen the relevant diagram in MS's "Introducing Win95" and most of the system stuff is still 16 bit. All the "new" Win32 features are written in 32-bit, of course, but the thunking diagram indicates that the majority of the old features are still 16-bit. > Since there is no 32bit replacement for the GUS drivers, the system will "thunk" > the vxd, slowing the whole system down. That's why we'd like a 32bit vxd for the > GUS. It'd run on NT, and Win95. The GUS windows driver is ALREADY a vxd. GRVSULTR.386 doesn't have the VXD extension, but it is one. (As I recall). It's already 32-bit. However it does not conform to the Win95/NT standards. > You're waiting for Gravis to give you a sign after 2 years? Open your > eyes, the message is loud and clear. I am giving Gravis a sign, I sold my > GUS. Why still here? This is the GUS mailing list, not the ex-GUS mailing list! > Subject: GUS: General User Satisfaction Hear hear! ;) > Why is it that you can get MIDI support under Windows but not DOS?? > I have an old 2.2 or 2.4 maybe and the cakewalk demo works great > under Windows. But other DOS MIDI type programs do not work over > the GUS MIDI ports. What is missing in DOS that Windows 3.11 provides? DOS programs expect a "clever" MIDI interface such as a roland MPU-401 or the Voyetra interface we used to have. SB-type interfaces are "dumb", like the one in an Atari ST, and rely on the OS to handle them. (which is fine, because it doesn't take much processor power). Sam [] http://www.dur.ac.uk/~d405ua <[ Web pagE ]> *NEW* Sysex Manager ! [] [] For Software Forge program information and downloads [] Including [] [] NETRIS 1.1 best Tetris game <[ For Win 3.1 ]> Sysex Manager 1.0S [] ------------------------------ From: "Viktor" Date: Thu, 25 May 1995 12:15:14 GMT+1 Subject: Out of scene + new GUS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Disclaimer: I've been out of the Gravis scene for quite a while, so my information may be a bit stale. The agreement Gravis forged with AMD was a technology _exchange_. AMD would get the GF1 to build upon, and Gravis would get first dibs on the chip AMD produces. Assuming that critical deadlines were not missed causing the agreement to fall through, Gravis should have gotten a headstart on everyone else in designing a new board around the Amadeus chip. I have no idea when we should expect such a card from Gravis, though. It may be a while coming yet. Phat. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< 1. Well it was at least one year ago I saw you Phat on the list. I'm back just now, like you but I remember how it was in the 'old' days: 'Anoyne? Phat?' 2. You can already order the new cards from Gravis, if you're a distributor. It will take about 2-3 month for the new cards to arrive here in Hungary. Viktor ------------------------------ From: "Viktor" Date: Thu, 25 May 1995 12:26:04 GMT+1 Subject: 16 bit recording (adpcm) Hi! I recorded a WAV file under USS16 with ADPCM compression. I can't play it with playfile (that's ok), but if I want to play it under Windows (media player) which has a Microsoft ADPCM driver, I hear only scrap. So question No1: how can I play ADPCM compressed SND/WAV files from DOS and from Windows? Question No2: How can I record to an ADPCM compressed file under Windoze? Question No3: Is it possible to play back a wav file on the playback DMA and record it with ADPCM compression? 'Anyone? Phat?' Viktor ------------------------------ From: Bart Meijer Date: Tue, 23 May 1995 21:13:45 +0000 Subject: Full Throttle > Date: Mon, 22 May 1995 00:06:10 -0700 > From: owner-gus-general-digest@mail.nws.orst.edu (The GUS Daily Digest) > To: gus-general-digest@mail.nws.orst.edu > Subject: The GUS Daily Digest V22 #20 > Reply-to: gus-general@gaia.ucs.orst.edu > > The GUS Daily Digest Monday, 22 May 1995 Volume 22 : Number 020 > > Today's Topics: > re: Joystick problems with ACE > A couple things.. > iMUSE System > Australian GUS Digest Archives Admin: Need certain Issues > Interwave - an answer to our dreams > Full Throttle > Better read this(Matt). I contains important information. > Yossi and general midi > Re: System Shock > awe32, win95 + other operating systems games & sound support > What's New? > software version list > Re: The GUS Daily Digest V22 #19 > Re: Win 95 > Interwave Documentation wanted > Full Throttle DOES support GUS > > Standard Info: > - Meta-info about the GUS can be found at the end of the Digest. > - Before you ask a question, please READ THE FAQ. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > From: sergio@msil.sps.mot.com (Sergio Liberman) > Date: Sun, 21 May 95 13:59:23+030 > Subject: re: Joystick problems with ACE > > I had the same problem, and I solved it by > changing the address of the MIDI port in the SB16 > to 300. > > Afterwards, I learned that the ULTIRNIT.EXE version that > came in the ACE disks (v 4.00) is not good for the ACE because > it did not disable the joystick circuit in the ACE card properly. > You should get ULTRINIT.EXE version 2.31 (I think) and do not forget > the -dj parameter. It is in the file GUS0045.zip in the gus archives. > I have not tried this with the old MIDI 330 address in the SB16. > > Sergio > - --- > sergio@netvision.net.il > > > > - ----------------------- > From: hastings@gasp.dseg.ti.com > Date: Fri, 19 May 95 10:06:12 CDT > Subject: Joystick problems with ACE > > Help!!! > > I bought an ACE to go with my SB16. Now my Flightstick pro buttons > no longer work (any of them). If I disable the joystick port on the > SB16 card, microsoft's MSD still detects a game port. If I remove > the ACE card, the problem disappears. Obviously the ACE has no game > port. > > My settings are SB16 IRQ 5, address 220, DMA 1 and 5. ACE IRQ 11, > address 250, DMA 6. Since I bought the ACE to make games sound > better, I'll have to take it back if I can't get the joystick > working with it. > > Thanks for any suggestions. clint > > ------------------------------ > > From: "Eric M. Busalacchi" > Date: Sat, 20 May 1995 20:31:50 +0000 () > Subject: A couple things.. > > >From: Mr Jeremy J Parker > >Date: Sat, 20 May 95 18:30:49 BST > >Subject: MEGAEMv3.03B and Magic Carpet > > > >Hurray I thought! > > > >At last I could get music (General Midi) from Magic Carpet using the new > >MEGAEM v3.03B which could work with protected mode games. > > > >BUT!!.. > > > >I still can't get soundblaster sounds to work. It just hangs. > > >Can anyone please help me out? > >I've tried various combinations of IRQ and other settings. > > Welp, I fought with MC for awhile, but after I got it working > it was well worth the wait. Anyways, here are a couple hints: > > Read the README file that comes with MegaEM, it tells you > the best way to configure your IRQ's and DMA's for MC. > > I made a boot disk with the lest amount of stuff loaded into > memory. Seems my PCI-HD Controller Card drivers were causing > mine to crash. > > Good luck.. > > - ----- > > >From: gould@cs.bris.ac.uk > >Date: Sun, 21 May 1995 02:40:07 +0100 (BST) > >Subject: Win 95 > > > >a) Windows '95 is garbage. The only good thing is the GUI. Cairo will > >supercede it in less than 2 years. I just had MS Word 6.0a crash on me 4 > >times, the last time wiping out most of my dissertation (Thanks Bill). > >Microsoft expects us to believe that, just for once, they'll produce a > >good product. MS just can't write decent software... > > Uhmm.. Dave not to bust you bubble or anything, but isn't Win 95 > still a beta release? Yeah, I thought so. Do you know what beta means? > Suck it up and wait till the real thing comes out before you start > bitching about MS Word crashing. > > - -- > Eric M. Busalacchi > emb@herman.tiac.net > http://www.tiac.net/users/emb/ > > > > > ------------------------------ > > From: Celtic Matrix > Date: Sun, 21 May 95 15:06:38 PDT > Subject: iMUSE System > > I wonder if there exist drivers for earlier games like > > Maniac Mansion I & II > Monkey Island I & II > Sam & Max > > for the GUS (MAX) .... ? > > Does anyone know if lucasarts is going to release updates? > > Where can I buy Full Throttle ? At LucasArts' ? Does it support the GUS > NATIVELY ?... Can anyone post the sales # of Lucasarts? > Or a Web page URL ? > > CM. > As for Full Throttle, the final product will have Native GUS Support, and it's almost finished, so it should be in the shops soon. And Lucasarts GUS support is until now only through the iMuse system, and this is being used since Dark Forces, so older games can't use this system. Groeten van Bart, tel.015-124607 ------------------------------ From: hickinl@VNET.IBM.COM Date: Thu, 25 May 95 11:36:11 BST Subject: OS/2 Drivers + Win'95 Arg + etc... Right, here's my 2cents worth on these subjects.. 1. OS/2 drivers - To the guy who said that he gave gravis a sign by selling his GUS....um..cutting your nose off to spite your face I think ??? I agree that two years is a hell of a long time for Gravis to have alpha code out and the real blame lies with them. If, in the outset they had said, we will NOT be providing support for OS/2 then that would be fine but that have obviously made a brave start at it, realised it would be too much work for not enough reward and just given them up. I bet the Gravis Development team have there fingers crossed, praying for the day we all just stop hassling them about it. (Which we shouldn't). At the moment, the only this that is stopping me from moving to Warp is the lack of Gus support (and thats not just because i'm an IBM'er) As soon as Manely's drivers support GF1 MIDI under OS/2 I'll move - Forget Gravis OS/2 drivers stick to Manleys. 2. Windows'9x Like it or Hate it, Microsoft are gonna make sure you use it. I have now had chance to actually USE the M8 beta (I would say final but we all know there will be another...). Truth is, Win'95 is a bit shit really. Its very good if you want your hand held throughout every function you perform and it you want pretty little icons and 'Whats this..' buttons on every damn thing you select....If they took out all the help code the product would be down to three disks (like its younger brother DOS) and probably run better... Anyway, I'm getting of subject here a little......basically, Screw Gravis's support of OS/2, Give Manley the support he needs and remember Win'95 is just an operating system.....not a way of life. Lee Hickin. IBM UK Limited. hickinl@vnet.ibm.com - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- "I'm actually a nice guy when you get to meet me...." ------------------------------ From: Calvin Dytham Date: Thu, 25 May 1995 13:11:49 PDT Subject: goodbye GUS Dear All, I've finally given up with the GUS and moved over to an AWE. I know the wavetable is not in the same league as my GUS but I've got thoroughly sick of failing to get any decent sound out of my games, especially Magic Carpet, Sam & Max CD, Theme Park, Bioforge etc. etc. Good bye and good luck. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dr Calvin Dytham tel +44 1904 432853 - - Department of Biology fax +44 1904 432860 - - University of York - - PO Box 373 - - York, YO1 5YW, UK - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ------------------------------ From: "NORSE::WATTERS_C" Date: 25 May 95 08:08:00 EST Subject: RE: The GUS Daily Digest V22 #23 4.11 a pain in the %$^#&@*!&%$ I ftped the newest file from epas, and unzipped/installed. Everything worked ok until I fired up Windows. No midi, wav was fine. I read the readme included, and the troubleshoot said to wipe the \ultrasnd directory and reinstall. I moved midisoft and powerchords out. 4.11 does not include patches! I had to reinstall the patches manually. Still no midi in Windows. I get a divide by zero from midisoft, and GPFs from media player. System CFG: P100, 8mb ram, 1.2 gb, dos 6.22, W4WG 3.11, gravis stuff in \ultrasnd rev 2.3 card (serial # in the 6000's), 1mb ram IRQ 7, dma 1, 220h base address. No irq conflicts, and address space is not overlapping. Any ideas? - -Coyt ------------------------------ From: Celtic Matrix Date: Thu, 25 May 95 14:57:55 PDT Subject: MK ][ and GUS ... possible ?! Mk ][ supports the GUS, but when I use my GUS MAX with it, it locks up ... CM. - ------------------------------------- E-mail: celtic@pop01.ny.us.ibm.net - ------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: DANTONIO@PROCESS.COM (Momentary Language, Sexual Situations) Date: Thu, 25 May 1995 09:53 -0400 Subject: RE: The OS discussion... > From: Sam > Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 11:32:55 +0100 (BST) > Subject: Re: The GUS Daily Digest V22 #22 >> [OS discussion deleted...] >> Vince, am I out of line here? >> I am still pretty new to this listserver. > I'd say so. Keep OS/2 to the OS/2 mailing list / newsgroups/ OS advocacy. Thanks for the opinion "Vince." My opinion is that pure OS discussions don't belong here; anything that relates to the GUS does. This includes how well the GUS is supported by OS/2, Win95 and various games. Or, put another way, if it doesn't have the word UltraSound in it (or Interwave? :-) don't post it here. DDA ------------------------------ From: DANTONIO@PROCESS.COM (Momentary Language, Sexual Situations) Date: Thu, 25 May 1995 09:58 -0400 Subject: RE: The Win95 discussion... > From: Matt@machine.demon.co.uk (Matt Robinson) > Date: Wed, 24 May 1995 14:53:11 GMT > Subject: Re: The GUS Daily Digest V22 #22 [Much ranting and raving about the (supposed) glories and 32-bittedness of Win95 deleted, much of it mistaken] Take it to the .advocacy groups. If people posting stuff about OS/2 are going to get ragged on, then so will people posting stuff about Win95. DDA ------------------------------ From: "Jason I. Goldovitz" Date: Thu, 25 May 1995 10:20:56 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Discworld > From: billf@wam.umd.edu > Date: Tue, 23 May 95 22:38:12 PDT > Subject: Diskworld? > > Has anyone had any luck getting Diskworld to work with the included > drivers? I was able to set the game up for "ultrasound" but when I try to > run the game it promptly locks up. I tried SBOS (old version) but nada. > It locks up also. > > I thought I saw some discussion on this game a few weeks back but I didn't > pay attention to it at the time. If anyone does know how to get the game > to work feel free to write me directly or post to the digest. > Well, I didn't have the lockup problem, but I had the "every time the game accesses the CD, the sound shits the bed" problem. I called Psygnosis when I bought the game (the day it came out), and they were "working on it". Well, the skinny from their tech support about three or four weeks ago was: "Well, the sound libraries we were using don't work on American PC's... only on British PC's." This sounds to me like a PAL vs. NTSC problem. My guess would be that their call-back routines hook the timer, and that the timer is oscillating at a different frequency in Britain, and the timing SUCKED. Oh, well. Call Psygnosis, and ask nicely for the patch, install it, and your game will work fine no matter what the problem. They are using a totally different set of drivers now. Lastly but not leastly, to the person who noted that sometimes the voices don't work... I think those are thoughts. Like something Rincewind says to himself. - Jason I. Goldovitz (odin@ccs.neu.edu) ------------------------------ From: Chris McKillop Date: Thu, 25 May 1995 11:32:57 -0400 Subject: Choppy AVI's in Windows...I know, i know.. SO, I finially get my new computer (P90) and it has a cdrom..So I get the Video for WIndows stuff and I am all excited...Multimedia blah, blah blah..Now I regret not paying more attention to those postings that talked about fixing the playback in Windows...so,,HOW DO I DO IT!!!!! I know that the AVI is not at fault, cause if I uninstall my GUS drivers, it plays back fine...no sound though..I tried setting my buffers to 512K etc, etc..I am using the 5.54 drivers from the 4.11 disk upgrade.. ANother thing..meagem 3.03b won't work on my computer..halts at the load patch part...damn.. Chris - --------- XORcists, 1B-2A Computer Engineering, University of Waterloo Chris McKillop cdmckill@novice.uwaterloo.ca On SUmmer Work Term.... " " Nice Guy. -The Man That Couldn't Talk ------------------------------ From: "Ignatius Tam (Mr. Tam)" Date: Thu, 25 May 1995 10:31:23 -0600 (MDT) Subject: NO OS FLAME WARS PLEASE!!!!! Hi people, i don't want to shout out but this OS discussion is getting me sick, THIS IS A GUS DIGEST GROUP!! I'm no supporter of Win95 but i'll be glad to hear well-mannered and gus-related discussions in Win95. This is especially for one guy from yesterday's digest that IMO has a bad attitude. This is not a warzone and please take your Win95 discussions to comp.os.os2.advocacy where you'll find lots of friends there. And Vince, keep the option of moderating the digest. Any flames please reply to me, don't waste bandwidth in the digest. - -iGnatius - -- @------------------------------------------------------------------------@ | /\ /\ MarToPigGus!!(tm) YoUr DreaMing piGG meaT iS heRe! | | / -- \ conTaCT yOur lOCal deALeR!! __iGnatius tAm___ | | | . . u| e-mail: tam@cs.ualberta.ca / itam@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca | | | __ | personal homepage: http://ugweb.cs.ualberta.ca/~tam | | | < .. > | GUS digest: http://gpu.srv.ualberta.ca/~itam/digest.html | | \______/ phone: 403-433-3187 | @------------------------------------------------------------------------@ ------------------------------ From: emilr@ksnet.ksedb.no (Emil Rakoczy) Date: Thu, 25 May 1995 17:30:26 +0100 Subject: !!!HELP!!! GUS + SOUND BLASTER !!!HELP!!! Hello. I'm sorry to say that I've given up on gravis and bought a Sound Bastard. However, I haven't sold my gus(never will) and they wont cooperate. After I've inserted the SB, the SB install-program won't start. Everything just locks up. My CD-ROM also hangs when its SCSI drivers are beeing loaded. This sucks. Please help. I've tried: set ultrasound=3,3,5,11 And the I/O for the bastard is 260, DMA 1. Have any of you got some useful hints and tips on running both the Sb and GUS together? Please mail me ASAP. Thanks. Emil "Words are turds!" *****THE_FANCY_SIGNATURE****** * Realtime:Emil Rakoczy * * Nickname:Lurking Puppet * * IRC:Lurking * * E-Mail:emilr@ksnet.ksedb.no* ******To be expanded...******* ------------------------------ From: joakim@mindspring.com (Joakim Erdfelt) Date: Thu, 25 May 1995 14:18:42 -0400 Subject: .AMD InterWave Press Release Found. for those of you that are curious. the Interwave press release is available via WWW at... http://www.amd.com/html/products/prodpr/9540.html enjoy. (and no more bickering about whose OS rox/is better/sux.) - --- - - - - - Joakim "JOE" Erdfelt - - - - - - - - - joakim@mindspring.com - - - - Dear Earthling : Hello! I am a creature from a galaxy far away, vacationing on your planet. I have transformed myself into this little .sig . As you are reading it, I am having sex with your eyeballs. I know you like it, because you are smiling. Thanks for a wonderful time. ------------------------------ From: "Brian Hayes, Sierra Systems" Date: Thu, 25 May 95 12:16:57 PDT Subject: Problems with the digest..... To: GUS-GENE--INTERNET gus-general@gaia.u I know I'm just one of the many subscribers to this digest, but I feel with a little work, this could be a great and very helpful medium--which I don't think is currently the case. Have a read, and perhaps lend some ideas on how to get things running more smoothly... 1) Too many off topic discussions. This list is by no means the worst offender of this rule. The majority of posts are on target--however we could all agree that the odd topic goes to far. It's a tough call though, as one persons 'way off topic' is another persons main interest. 2) Too many repeated questions. With more users signing up every week, this is also a tough one. How many questions like "How do I get Theme Park to work with the GUS?" have we seen in the last year? Too many to mention. I think the only thing we could do to keep this down is to have a more complete G-List (the software compatibility list). Waht would be great, is a WWW site that users can post solutions to once one is found--thus you could check the web before posting. Those without WWW access will need some other way however... (BTW, Theme Park will NOT work with the GUS :-) 3) No answers. The Question to Answer ratio is incredibly out of balance. For every ten questions asked, there is only one or two answered. I'm not saying it's your duty to post, but if you see someone in trouble, give them a hand. I've done a few personal replies myself, but I am also guilty of not spending the time to answer things I knew (Anyone remember Phat? He used to answer about 80% of all questions asked on this group, and quickly too!). We could all do our part to help others (gee, world peace is only a step away isn't it :-) 4) Message Subjects. This is a digest people. The best thing about a digest, is that it takes all of the subjects out of the messages, and makes a nice table of contents--that is, if you use it that way. On any given day, if there are 10 messages, 7 will have the subject of RE: Gus General Digest Volume ## Issue ## (or whatever it says). Try looking in the archives to the answers to a question when over half the responses have those for subjects. It takes no time at all to re-type the subject line to say "Re: Theme park question" instead of letting it default. 5) Lack of support from Gravis. I know there used to be people from Gravis who read this digest daily. Now, it's like they don't even know we are here. We have new drivers going up on epas and other sites, and we have no idea what they are. How about press releases from Gravis, or at least let us know in ten words or more what is going up. We spent money on these cards, and we care enough to get together in this forum, the least you can do is contribute and help us out. Of course all of the Gravis reps may have left the digest because the digest has too much.... 6) ..Complaining and Whining. I know this is a touchy one, but come on people. Yes if Gravis knows your displeasure about the lack of OS/2, Win95, Nt, etc. support they may get someone on it, but it does no good making everyone else wade through it day after day. Send your complaints to one of the Gravis e-mail id's, not the digest. I'm sure personal e-mail would be much more effective than a digest you can just delete (or unsubscribe to as seems to be the case). Another part of this point is that people just don't pay attention. Take for instance the talk about LA's Full Throttle. Yes the demo didn't support the GUS, and some people went nuts--saying they were going to sell there card, fire bomb LA, etc. OK. For one, keep your rants to yourself. Most people don't care that your off to buy a sound blaster next weekend. Good for you. Second, before you make a fool of yourself, check the facts. If you would have read the readme file that comes with the demo, you would have seen the "Note to GUS Owners" saying that although the demo did not support the GUS, that the final version was going to and not to worry. This is of course the hardest thing to get a user to do--read the instructions before you call tech support :-) So that's enough for me. Yeah I know, where do I get off, who do I think I am, my momma, all that stuff. I'm not looking for a flame war here, I'm trying to bring this digest up to snuff for everyone. I'd like to see some good discussion on some of these points if you have the time. Who knows, perhaps one day the GUS will be the most supported PC sound card in history. When asked why, game companies everywhere will reply "Well, they had the best digest out there, so we felt it MUST be the best card" :-) have a great weekend everyone! P.S. So was this On topic, or OFF topic?? Brian Hayes Health: (604) 952-1834 o Ministry of health, /> Client Registry Internet: BAHAYES@BCSC02.GOV.BC.CA ._/< ------------------------------ From: Yossi Oren Date: Thu, 25 May 95 22:19:35 +0300 Subject: Re: The GUS Daily Digest V22 #20 Re Interwave competition: If the API is a superset of the GUS, who'll be the most professional driver makers? I'd think it'll work the way "GUS clones" are sold abroad these days - Gravis makes it and sells it OEM, and somebody else markets it. Re Gravis needs customers: Not exactly. The only use I can see for these when we've got a hardware company, is for people who make repeat purchases. And you claim you won't buy new stuff, you just want across-the-board compatibility. Well, good luck. Re Emil: Well, at least my .sig doesn't go SIDEWAYS. And if you're using a v2.2 card from the time when you had both DOS 2.1 and DOS 3.3 installed for compatibility, don't give me no history talk. And before we start - DON'T start a Mac vs PC flamewar! I'm up to here with the SlowS/2 vs Windows one already. Yossi. lioren1@weizmann.weizmann.ac.il / The people are with the Golan Heights. Currently serving somewhere in / Politically correct my ass. the Israeli Defense Forces. / Gravis Ultrasound - you'd better buy one - --------( "ObKibo" )--------- or I'll hit you (like my slogan?). ------------------------------ From: csjohn@knuth.mtsu.edu (John Wallace) Date: Thu, 25 May 1995 16:04:59 -0500 (CDT) Subject: AMD Interwave emulation Does anyone know if the GUS/GUS Max will have the ability to be compatible with future software which utilizes the AMD Interwave via drivers? It would seem that it would be easier for the GUS/GUS Max to emulate an AMD Interwave (since the AMD is based on wavetable synthesis) than it is for the GUS/GUS Max to emulate an FM type Soundblaster. Anyone? - -- (John Wallace || csjohn@knuth.mtsu.edu) && Team OS/2 ------------------------------ From: -Vince- Date: Thu, 25 May 1995 20:08:41 -0400 (EDT) Subject: GUS for sale Gus 1 meg (rev 2.4) for sale - $100 or Best Offer with all docs, box, latest software. Buyer pays shipping... If interested, please e-mail me. Thanks. Cheers, - -Vince- vince@kbrown.oldcampus.yale.edu UCLA Physics/Electrical Engineering GUS Lists Maintainer ------------------------------ From: -Vince- Date: Thu, 25 May 1995 20:09:34 -0400 (EDT) Subject: GUSMax for sale GUSMax 1 meg (rev 1.8) for sale - $160 or Best Offer brand new with all docs, box, latest software. Buyer pays shipping... If interested, please e-mail me. Thanks. Cheers, - -Vince- vince@kbrown.oldcampus.yale.edu UCLA Physics/Electrical Engineering GUS Lists Maintainer ------------------------------ From: Daryl James Date: Fri, 26 May 95 09:47:49 TZ Subject: RE: GUS and updated drivers (&Win 95) Blake Patterson wrote on the digest... >Subject: GUS and updateed drivers (&Win 95) > > I am running Windows 95 currently. > > BEFORE I installed Win95, however, I lost Windows-based-MIDI |and MOD4Win use on my GUS. This is due to the installation of the ~3mb >GUS411.ZIP (4.11 I suppose) drivers. Are these supposed to work? I get fine DOS performance -- PLAYMIDI, MOD players, games, etc. Why >does it not work under Win? > > It did not START working when I installed Win95 (imagine that). I get sound -- but no MIDI (and no DOS session sound, of course, until >Gravis releases Win95 drivers -- which will prob. fix this whole mess (Are they going to release some, or is it going to be like it has been w/ OS/2 drivers??)). > > Can anyone give me some pointers/help? Thanks. > >bp >bpatters@pcs.cnu.edu >blake@vigsun1.larc.nasa.gov Here's my 2 cents worth.. I just installed Windows 95 for the first time and I am having the same problem. (Pretty disappointing to see so many supported sound cards- but no GUS) Of course I had to resort to trying the 16 bit (Win3.x) drivers we already have. Digital sound is OK, but no MIDI. However, I think the problem is not really the driver, but the way the MIDI Mapper works. I was able to load patches with PatchManager and play them- all seemed to load and play correctly except for one- acpiano.pat (Channel 0). Once I loaded a few patches, I got got Drums/Percussion when playing CANYON.MID that ships with Windows95- but no other instruments played. So it appears that there is a problem with the mapping. I tried editing the instrument mapping by hand, but it made no difference (but then again- I was only experimenting since I don't really know how Windows95 uses the midi mapper.) I also noted that the new MIDIMAP.CFG file that ships with Windows95 is only 1 byte. I tried copying the MIDIMAP.CFG file from the GUS driver disks but no joy. Well its been fun trying to get the GUS going with a BETA operating system, but I guess we'll have to wait for Gravis to release new drivers when Windows95 ships - unless someone else has any pointers/ideas? 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